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eddz
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:01 am    Post subject: HELP Reply with quote

Hey to all helli-addicts
Im new to this and as im still looking for that perfect bigginners helli i was wondering if anyone could shed some light on which aircraft to purchase. Question i already have a futaba 1024 handset which i use for my planes and its ideal for hellis.
Thanks to anyone who may assist me.
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Stephen
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:49 am    Post subject: Re: HELP Reply with quote

Most folk start with a raptor 30/50 v2
You could use a evo, nexus,concept or a shuttle, or even a small electric heli,

Every model shop in Scotland has a stock of some spares for the raptor although you can easily buy spares from the shops in england and have them sent to your door,

Depending how serious you become the fact is you probably will never out grow the raptor 30/50 in terms of actual flying ability,

The bigger helis are more stable , make a better noise and are nicer to fly, they will stand up to more aggressive flying as well,

Learn on the smaller size and once youve got it, go for a 60 or 90 size.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:25 pm    Post subject: Re: HELP Reply with quote

thanks 4 the advice.i did nt say in my message that we already have a smartech helicopter and its been joyous to fly with.As for buying a rappy it could be in the pipe line 4 next week.




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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:01 pm    Post subject: Re: HELP Reply with quote

Hi

I wonder why everyone buys into the craptor brainwashing there are many other as good if not better helis out there. for similar money for a craptor you could buy a hirobo sceadu 30 with little or no slop in the control outputs..

but I suppose as everyother sod and his little sister at the local flying field flys a craptor, so when somthing new apears no bugger know how to help set the thing up, so thats how the craptor get a strangle hold on the market.

I flew a few crapters once to see if they were as good as the hype, and one word sprang to mind "wooly" in the control even after a little tinkering for my own tastes. i was looking to add heaps of expo thinking it was just a lively little bugger , but no it just wanted to do its own thing due to slop.

By all means buy one but please go talk to those that fly other brands too then make an "informed" choice not just be a sheep and fly a certain brand because thats what everyone else flys, there is a fine line between impartial advice and takling about one brand because thtas all you know about..

possibly even look at staying with electric in the shape of the logo10 from mikado a nice stable little platform, and Li-po technology with a balance circuit charger and cells has come to a point now where they are a match for I/C in both flight dynamics and flight times too, they are the future of our hobby i feel with noise restrictions on the up.

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Mike
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 3:37 am    Post subject: Re: HELP Reply with quote

CaLviNx wrote:
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but I suppose as everyother sod and his little sister at the local flying field flys a craptor, so when somthing new apears no bugger know how to help set the thing up, so thats how the craptor get a strangle hold on the market.


Kindest regards


Well we do actually Very Happy I have three Laughing Laughing

In fact its almost 99% craptors as you'll see when you visit the field Laughing

Of course, once you can set up one heli, the rest are a piece of cake.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 4:10 am    Post subject: Re: HELP Reply with quote

Exactly!!!

Your last post only go's to prove my point
the word sheep was used somewhere i think.



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 4:20 am    Post subject: Re: HELP Reply with quote

CaLviNx wrote:
Exactly!!!

Your last post only go's to prove my point
the word sheep was used somewhere i think.



Laughing


Not exactly Wink

I bought my first R30 after months of research on all the makes of Heli. Very Happy

Unfortunately, like it or not. The R30 ARTF can be assembled and up and running within 4hrs. Spares, especially at IDMC are available locally, and they are inexpensive. Most novices at the club who have built an R30 without help seem to get the setup more or less correct without any help.

You bought the Heli you wanted, no one asked you too. The other club members will spend their cash on what they feel best fills their needs.

My current R30 V2 flew for 18months and only required a replacement washout base. The other guys see this as being reliable and inexpensive. No one forces them to go that way.

Of course if everyone ends up flying Hirobos then I suppose thats ok. Mind you its always good to support some of the other makes, thats why I also have a Century Hawk<<< Now those mechanics are crap Surprised


You can try and convince me on Monday night Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 4:34 am    Post subject: Re: HELP Reply with quote

And they call the Irish thick.........

You can excuse buying one under the excuse of inexperience but three.........

well need i say more.

Like the original post everyone SHOULD make an informed choice not just be a sheep and buy what every other one is flying listen and talk to many people then buy.

The matter have now been covered in detail and as such can now be considered closed.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 6:16 am    Post subject: Re: HELP Reply with quote

CaLviNx wrote:
And they call the Irish thick.........

You can excuse buying one under the excuse of inexperience but three.........

well need i say more.

Like the original post everyone SHOULD make an informed choice not just be a sheep and buy what every other one is flying listen and talk to many people then buy.

The matter have now been covered in detail and as such can now be considered closed.


Hey, you can call me 'thick' on Monday evening at the 'drum inn' club talk if you'd like Wink In fact, I suspect that most of the clubs Raptor owners will be there Very Happy

'Sticks and stones' Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: HELP Reply with quote

Whoa, steady on boys, it's only a sport Laughing

Well I flew 3 (consecutive) Hirobo shuttles for 17 years, after my MM Lark, Graupner Bell 47g and Kalt Baron 30. They were very good, but dead sloppy. I then flew a Sceadu 30 for one of our members, it was OK, but personally I didn't think it was a vast improvement over the shuttle. It was then that I looked elsewhere. Nearly bought a raptor, but ended up buying an X-CELL gas. Nice machine but an awful kit, for the money, I had really expected it to fit together without the use of a dremel Shocked

I have also bought a raptor 30 and converted it to an electric 50 as it was cheap. I must admit it doesn't fly as well as my X-Cell and is on a par to the shuttle and sceadu, but not quite. It is however a whole heap cheaper, so I can see why it is an attractive beginner machine.

So what if you don't like someone else's choice of model, what purpose is served in slating a model that someone is happy with?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:01 am    Post subject: Re: HELP Reply with quote

QM wrote:
Whoa, steady on boys, it's only a sport Laughing



Hey!!!, we'll decide Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 3:00 pm    Post subject: Re: HELP Reply with quote

These guys just dont see a bit of "friendly" slagging when they see it


"to us sheep shaggers" the slagging is considered a sport too.............



Wink


Im think im gonna take My "T-Rex" along to the meeting at the drum to try and convert some more to electric,

hmm im told a T-Rex is a mini raptor made electric too, suppose that makes me a raptor owner kinda too...........wonder if i can sneak in under that guise
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 6:11 pm    Post subject: Re: HELP Reply with quote

Definition
slag off phrasal verb [M] UK INFORMAL
to criticize someone

Sorry my interpretation of slagging is unpleasant, so is the dictionaries definition. I don't mind what people have to say, as long as they can back up their bold/inciting statements with actual fact (especially as I have a raptor) Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:14 pm    Post subject: Re: HELP Reply with quote

steady on quinten lighten up
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:55 pm    Post subject: Re: HELP Reply with quote

Lighten up is not really an issue as I think the point being made here, is a newbie asked a question and was given a popular answer. Then a statement was made with probably little thought to others that just ticks everyone off who flies a particular make of model Rolling Eyes

Your original statement was quite good, there are reasons why people prefer one type to another, but that doesn't make the other types rubbish does it. I have come across people that have turned up for help with a 20 year old helicopter, which flies really well. Others that spend £50 on a second hand machine or hundreds on a new one, all do exactly what the owner wanted, got them started.

You made another good and relevant point, what do the local club fly? If you turn up with a machine that no one has any experience on, help is difficult for them to give apart from basic heli knowledge of course.

So really a little thought goes a long way Wink
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